been dealing with lower back pain since my 50s. tried everything - chiropractor, PT, those weird back braces, you name it. nothing really helped long term. wife ordered this for her skin (?) but when it came I read the bottle and saw it said joint support. figured what the hell, I'll try it too. about a month in I noticed I wasn't reaching for ibuprofen every morning. now it's been almost 3 months and my back feels better than it has in years. I can work in the yard again without being laid up the next day. still can't believe a supplement actually worked but here we are. highly recommend if you're dealing with joint stuff.